Author Topic: self isolation  (Read 1055 times)

Online AlanK

self isolation
« on: March 19, 2020, 02:03:36 PM »
So with all the covid19 insanity I'm now working from home for who knows how long as many of you may also be. I was due to have my bros over this weekend to jam/practice and we've decided to abide by the social distancing suggestions and postpone the get together. I'm sure many of you are doing the same wherever you are.. I'm up in Ottawa, Canada so we're just now starting to see the spread pick up.

Just wanted to wish you all good luck, good health, and stay sane. I think I've got enough toilet paper to last a few weeks at least (wtf is up with the hoarding, do the panickers think this flu will give them diarrhea??). In the meantime, I'll have a lot of time to play my drums so I'm grateful to have such an incredible way to fill up time during isolation!

Think I'm going to do some more cover videos and will share them as I get the time. Best wishes to the alesisDrummer community and to all your families and friends.

Alan
DM10X with Addictive Drums 2, Pro X hi-hat, 4 crashes, 682 white mesh cone conversion, Laurin Drums snare and kick, Mapex P710W double kick pedal, Tama saddle, Panasonic noise cancelling headphones, Behringer 8 channel USB mixer, Tascam 144MK AI, Samson Expedition Escape powered speakers

Offline Chaser

Re: self isolation
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2020, 03:09:14 PM »
So with all the covid19 insanity I'm now working from home for who knows how long as many of you may also be. I was due to have my bros over this weekend to jam/practice and we've decided to abide by the social distancing suggestions and postpone the get together. I'm sure many of you are doing the same wherever you are.. I'm up in Ottawa, Canada so we're just now starting to see the spread pick up.

Just wanted to wish you all good luck, good health, and stay sane. I think I've got enough toilet paper to last a few weeks at least (wtf is up with the hoarding, do the panickers think this flu will give them diarrhea??). In the meantime, I'll have a lot of time to play my drums so I'm grateful to have such an incredible way to fill up time during isolation!

Think I'm going to do some more cover videos and will share them as I get the time. Best wishes to the alesisDrummer community and to all your families and friends.

Alan

Hey Alan !!
I just got back from the "Wild" (grocery shopping in So Cal).
I think the hoarding is because Politicians/Public Officials etc don't think... in the same sentence.."No need to hoard...BTW you are now required to "shelter in place"..
Schools here (OC) are done for the year..
I was in Vegas yesterday...everything is now shut down for 30 days and mass panic..

There is a free live Musician/Live Music Platform I have been meaning to check out but haven't had the time.I can't confirm/verify if it works well or if it's cr*p..Internet speeds have come along way since it's release
It's been out for awhile,you could check that out with the bros..desktop only for MacOS/Windows..Ethernet port for real-time online sessions (WiFi not recommended)Broadband Internet service with 1Mbps uplink bandwidth for real-time online sessions...
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4SSNHkGcfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibRmkIaMjs

JAMKAZAM

Online Hellfire

Re: self isolation
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2020, 04:34:04 PM »
Yes, this is crazy! I had to break down my drum kit so my wife had room to work. We are both working from home and both my kids are home, one doing online classes for collage and the other off for the next 3 weeks (possible the rest of the school year).

I have no idea when I'll get to play drums again.  :-\

Oh well, at least the family is home and safe.  :)

BTW, JAMKAZAM looks cool!
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Offline Chaser

Re: self isolation
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2020, 10:37:33 PM »
Yes, this is crazy! I had to break down my drum kit so my wife had room to work. We are both working from home and both my kids are home, one doing online classes for collage and the other off for the next 3 weeks (possible the rest of the school year).

I have no idea when I'll get to play drums again.  :-\

Oh well, at least the family is home and safe.  :)

BTW, JAMKAZAM looks cool!

Good to hear family is all good and at home and the one in collage isn't stuck somewhere for Spring break like Florida where they just announced closing the beaches because of the giant crowds of partying collage kids..5 mins ago there was a Statewide "Stay at Home Order" issued here and all non-essential business' must close until April 19..about as close to Martial Law as you can get...so I guess it's time to get caught up on some projects I have been meaning to get to..although I have got a lot of air travel between now and then.
I have a lot of friends that own/operate "non-essential business'" so it's going to be a rough 30 days..

BTW, JAMKAZAM looks cool!

The main issue that I ran into with live platforms was latency..everyone had different audio interfaces and video frame rates etc and different bandwidth..some slower some faster..I think Jamkazam did a kickstarter for an interface so that all musicians would have the same connection and the online program could distribute the signal evenly.

Re: self isolation
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2020, 06:52:02 AM »
I'm here in Maryland on the East Coast of the U.S. and the toilet paper hoarding is in full swing.
I have been on a nearly 2 week quest to find some and finally struck pay dirt the other day. It is absolutely ridiculous.
I saw where some stores had guards stationed in the toilet paper aisles so that employees could restock without getting harassed.
I'm 54 and have never seen anything like this before including 9/11 and Y2K.
I'm a power plant operator/Stationary Engineer and was on watch during both 9/11 and Y2K and stopped at the stores on the way home to asses the situation and everything seemed normal at that time.
Now, you can't find any paper products at all, no medicines including aspirin, the pet food aisles are emptying out, no bottled water, and forget about cleaning supplies and hand sanitizer.
This is crazy!
I have to take my 74 yr. old mother to the store this morning and I'm afraid she wont be able to find anything.
She lives 50 miles from me and I go to her house every other week since it's close to where I work.
I expect the Governor to close down the state like California did and at that point, I don't know what she will do since I'm her only transportation.
I am considered an essential employee so I will have to report to work no matter what so I still may be able to help her out on my home as normal.
Crazy times we have here!
On the plus side, I picked up an Akai MPC live and Novation Circuit so I can make my own songs to jam along to on my drum kit.
I bring them to work and write some songs to them then go home and route them through my mixer. I can mute the programmed drum tracks if I want to or play over top of them. It's very cool!

powerhouse
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Online Andy Keys

Re: self isolation
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2020, 08:22:34 AM »
...toilet paper hoarding is in full swing.
...finally struck pay dirt the other day.
Genuine LOL  ;D

Stay clean and stay safe, everyone.

Online AlanK

Re: self isolation
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2020, 10:58:41 AM »
Wow yes insaneness ensuing everywhere. Good luck all you guys with your families and obligations and safety in general. My brother moved my aging mom out to near him which is about 6 hrs from where I am and he's basically being a dick and doesn't help her out. My dad's here and we're pretty close so he can rely on me if necessary.

I think I'll be working from home for a month at least. I'm lucky in that I'm alone (second wife and her four yound adult stepkids drove me nuts and I asked them to leave couple years ago.. dodged a bullet cuz although I adore them all they weren't very hygienic and never listened to my advice, so this house would have been covered in germs!). I can play my drums anytime. Well almost.

I'm going to check out that JamKazam, I remember hearing about it a while ago. See if the bandmates are able to join in a session. Thanks for that tip! I think if people here have ideas like that to share during these hard times, this forum will really prove itself to be even more helpful to this community than ever. I've ordered an action cam on Amazon to be left at my doorstep so I may be able to shoot a couple cover videos for fun while I'm off. Definitely gonna start gardening this summer to grow my own veggies, esp if this takes a few months to subside :)

be well brothers and sisters

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Offline Chaser

Re: self isolation
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2020, 12:40:48 PM »

I'm going to check out that JamKazam, I remember hearing about it a while ago. See if the bandmates are able to join in a session. Thanks for that tip! I think if people here have ideas like that to share during these hard times, this forum will really prove itself to be even more helpful to this community than ever. I've ordered an action cam on Amazon to be left at my doorstep so I may be able to shoot a couple cover videos for fun while I'm off. Definitely gonna start gardening this summer to grow my own veggies, esp if this takes a few months to subside :)

be well brothers and sisters

The last I checked they also added Vst support.I will install/setup and try some different configurations..laptops,PC,different audio interfaces from low end to high end.
Maybe we'll get people on the same time schedule and see exactly if it works coast to coast..country to country etc or if it looks like a Kung Fu movie from the 70's.

Re: self isolation
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2020, 08:13:39 AM »
good luck to you all !

here in the Netherlands we are on soft lockdown but i only go out for grocery.  me and the mss are still super ok and have a normal suply of food. . panic buying is here as well .. whats with that toilet paper  ?  looks like that is gold suddenly.  i can still play the drums everyday and i found a way to record that on the go pro. 

stay safe.

Online AlanK

Re: self isolation
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2020, 10:33:19 AM »
Glad to hear you're safe and still playing over there. Same here.. I'm alone, working from home, not minding the peace and quiet until I go down to the drumsets! Maybe the TP hoarding is so they can throw a roll at anyone who comes knocking uninvited?

I ordered a GoPro copycat on Friday, it should arrive today by Amazon.. let them leave it at my doorstep! Then maybe I'll have a second angle in my vids if the thing isn't just a piece of crap.. fingers crossed
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Re: self isolation
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2020, 01:21:30 PM »
Hi from Spain,

We're well into our second week of lockdown and have enough loo roll to keep us going for now... there was some minor panic buying a couple of weeks ago but things seems to have calmed down.

The situation is pretty desperate now in Spain and getting worse by the day; brace yourselves guys because this is where you'll probably be in a week or two. Take the official numbers and multiply them by at least 10 to get a more realistic idea of the spread.

My ekit is in another house and will have to remain there for the foreseeable future. At least I have an electric guitar here I'll have to learn to play...

There's another online jamming tool called Jamulus, open source software available for mac, linux and windows. It used to be a very niche, little-known application but its use has exploded over the last couple of weeks. Same as the others, you need a good internet connection and audio interface. You can meet up with others by connecting to one out of a list of servers, or you can launch your own server and connect to that - recommended if the people you want to jam with live nearby.

Stay safe guys and gals.

Online Hellfire

Re: self isolation
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2020, 09:58:25 AM »
Bumping this topic because I think it's important.  ;)
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Re:JamKazam
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2020, 08:26:34 PM »
Hello Alesis Folks,
Jim here from BC.  Has anyone tried Jamkazam? I tried with a bandmate last night but not much success. I used a M-Audio Fast Track interface and a MacBook Pro. Motivated to jam again. Anyone out there had any success with JamKazam? Looking for set-up tips.

Offline Chaser

Re: self isolation
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2020, 11:49:30 PM »
I received a "current status" email from JamKazam a few days ago..



Hello JamKazammers

A number of new users have asked if we are still here, and if the company and the service are still operational. The answer to all of these questions is yes.

To be clear, we are necessarily working on JamKazam part-time at this point. We are short on capital/cash. And we are very overwhelmed by the surge in the use of JamKazam, so we cannot provide 1:1 tech support. Please refer to this forum article for a help index of tutorial videos: https://forum.jamkazam.com/showthread.php?tid=69&pid=171#pid171. Sadly, we lost our more detailed help documentation when Desk.com went away, so please try to help each other as much as you can as a community in the forum.

Meanwhile, we are continuing to support and further develop JamKazam. Recently, we have fixed a number of video issues and other bugs that have cropped up in the service and have increased our server capacity to try to keep up with the surge in demand.

We are also working on a couple of larger enhancements:

    Live Concert Broadcasts Weve built a new feature set that will enable bands to live broadcast group performances through YouTube Live and Facebook Live. Weve also integrated this feature with Eventbrite ticketing, so that bands can sell tickets to their fans/audience for these events if desired. This feature is getting close to release, and well announce this when ready. It is our hope that this feature can help bands generate income from performances while continuing to practice social distancing. If your band is playing together successfully on JamKazam, drop us an email at support@jamkazam.com if youd like to be an early adopter of this new concert broadcast service.

    Internet Latency Reductions We are also working on something that has been on our drawing board for years now a networking service that will actually reduce the Internet latency between the musicians in a session. We have run tests that prove we can do this, and we are building the technology to do it now. We dont have the capital to deploy the servers and purchase the bandwidth to support this feature at this time, but we are hopeful that we can find a way to pull off the financial part of the puzzle somehow. The latency reductions that are possible are very significant and can make a tremendous difference in online sessions.

Wed like to thank everyone for your patience as we do our best to continue to support and improve JamKazam under adverse conditions. We have considered whether to ask for financial help from our users via a GoFundMe or other mechanism, as we are definitely short of cash in addition to time. We know its a bad time to ask for help, so honestly not sure what to do about this.

Hope everyone is safe and well out there.

Re: self isolation
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2020, 10:51:41 AM »
I got that too. I have a feeling JamKazam is overwhelmed and the system is overloaded. I am wondering if there is a better platform out there, even if there is a reasonable fee?

Offline Chaser

Re: self isolation
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2020, 11:38:07 AM »
I got that too. I have a feeling JamKazam is overwhelmed and the system is overloaded. I am wondering if there is a better platform out there, even if there is a reasonable fee?

It is unfortunate...In business it's all about timing and I don't believe in "dumb luck"
Luck is when opportunity and preparation meet..

There are some others...a lot of these live platforms success depends on distance (latency).
Based on research done at Standford University, musicians can play in sync as long as the latency is 25ms or less.
I (and many others) experimented years ago with a T1 line and there was still latency...since then a lot of internet suppliers have upgraded their lines/networks etc.

Jamulus
Forum is active
 
jammr
Forum is active

jamlink
Forum is inactive

jamlink had Ethernet interfaces that compressed the signal and reduced round trip latency but looks to be dead..the forum is over  2 years old,Facebook page is gone and there's a certificate warning when connecting to the site.
"The average delay introduced by two jamLinks is about 7ms which leaves 18ms for Internet travel time when keeping the total lag at or below 25ms. Using typical Internet service provider networks, this allows for about 500 miles between players."

There are some others that are really good but they are mainly for Live Collaboration etc..
a Premium example would be Sessionwire


There are also a few for Live Performers...but not linking Musicians

STAGEIT
STAGEIT is an online venue where artists perform live, interactive, monetized shows for their fans directly from a laptop, offering fans unique experiences that are never archived.
What is STAGEIT

StreetJelly
Similar to StageIt,online venue where artists perform live, interactive, monetized shows
How it works
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Re: self isolation
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2020, 11:29:23 AM »
Thanks for the reply. I did get JamKazam to work reasonably well yesterday. Takes a lot of tweaking. I may check out some of the others though to see if they are better for me. Cheers, J.

Offline Chaser

Re: self isolation
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2020, 10:16:21 AM »
Thanks for the reply. I did get JamKazam to work reasonably well yesterday. Takes a lot of tweaking. I may check out some of the others though to see if they are better for me. Cheers, J.

There is a compatibility/performance list being compiled for audio interfaces...broken down to 4 categories..it is being updated often.

Audio Interfaces Confirmed Working With JamKazam
Audio Interfaces Confirmed Working With JamKazam, But Not Working Well
Audio Interfaces Confirmed NOT Working With JamKazam
Audio Interfaces Mentioned, But Not Yet Determined If Working With JamKazam

List of Audio Interfaces

Current Versions of JamKazam clients (as of 2020-05-03)
 
Mac: Build 1.20 - "1.0.3669"

Windows: Build 1.20 - "1.0.3657"

I received this update just moments after posting the above..

Hello JamKazammers

We received an outpouring of encouragement and offers to help from the last email in which we explained our current status, and we'd like to say thank you for this. It really helps us to hear how many of you love the service. Given the number of users who would like to support JamKazam's continued development, we have created a GoFundMe. If you would like to help keep JamKazam alive and innovating, please consider using the link below to contribute what you can, with our thanks. In the GoFundMe description, you'll find a list of things we'd like to be able to do with more funding, including our top target - a feature that will decrease Internet latency between musicians in sessions.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/cy2fsq-keep-jamkazam-alive-amp-improving

We are also announcing the beta release of a new set of features that will let you live broadcast the video and audio of your JamKazam sessions through YouTube Live, Facebook Live, or Twitch. You can broadcast free, public performances. Or you can use JamKazam's Eventbrite integration to sell tickets and generate income from paid concerts. Our new broadcast features also include remote control of all cameras in the session, with support for both individual performer shots and group/composite layouts, to add visual interest during your performances.

Here is a link to the tutorial video for the new broadcasting features: https://youtu.be/-HnbJBbbM_E

And here is a link to a Facebook Live stream that was put together by some enterprising JamKazammers who discovered and figured out how to use this feature before we announced it: https://www.facebook.com/JamkazamLIVEJams/videos/3731738046896854

If you use the new broadcast feature, please email us a link to your performance at
support@jamkazam.com so we can see it. And if you are scheduling an upcoming performance, please email us let us know about it so that we can help you promote it to fans who are missing live music while in quarantine.

Best Regards,
Team JamKazam


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