Author Topic: Two Triggers, One Kick Drum?  (Read 553 times)

Offline Starkeyje

Two Triggers, One Kick Drum?
« on: August 20, 2018, 03:11:12 PM »
Hi folks.  I've been drumming for decades.  A few days ago, I had my first gig using a completely electronic setup and my DM10X Pro with the 682Drums mesh head conversion.  I  played the kit hard for about 2 years before I finally took it out.

Well, the gig was a disaster, mainly because my kick stopped triggering.  I rigged it to get it to work and made it through the night.  When I finally got around to inspecting it, I found that the piezo trigger element was smashed. 

I have pretty quick feet with the double pedal, so triggering the kick drum has always been an issue.  So I started thinking.  What if I replaced the single, center mounted piezo element with two piezo elements, off-center, so they are closer to where the beaters strike the head.  Has anyone ever tried this?  Is it possible?  Can I run them to a single output, or should I run them to two, separate outputs? 
« Last Edit: August 20, 2018, 03:12:46 PM by Starkeyje »

Offline ironman187

Re: Two Triggers, One Kick Drum?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 12:09:56 AM »
Wow, sounds like you are a hard hitter. Have you considered using the method Alesis uses in their mesh head kicks? A foam tower in the middle to cut down on bounce and a piezo with a small foam pillar attached to it that contacts the head at the bottom of the kick?

Offline Dobly

Re: Two Triggers, One Kick Drum?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 10:44:46 PM »
Well, the gig was a disaster, mainly because my kick stopped triggering.  I rigged it to get it to work and made it through the night.  When I finally got around to inspecting it, I found that the piezo trigger element was smashed. 

Check out this mod I did to my Dm10X bass drum pad.

http://www.alesisdrummer.com/index.php?topic=6785.0

I did that almost 2 years ago and it has not failed yet.

Offline ralis

Re: Two Triggers, One Kick Drum?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2018, 11:14:06 PM »
Hi, I smashed my Quartz Trigger in my 16" kick. I built a new trigger with 2, yes two 35mm Piezos  wired in parallel.
I use a 5"x8" piece of 1/2" plywood mounted the piezo's on with foam double stick tape. The I glued on a 2" thick 5"x8" piece of foam with spray glue.
I wrapped the whole thing with thick fabric that was spray glued on.
It works great not a problem since.
Another thing that I do is that I have Rim Mounted Triggers

( http://billyblastdrums.easystorecreator.com/items/drum-triggers/set-of-five-triggers-blasters-set-of-five-triggers-blasters-detail.htm )

on every drum just in case. If an internal trigger goes out during the show. Just unplug the internal trigger and plug in to the rim mounted triggers.

I first saw double triggers on Joey Jordison's drums when he was palying with Slipknot. Even though he had two kick drums he only used one with a double  pedal and It had two DDrum triggers on on it. I asked why just the one kick and two triggers. He explained that even two kicks, exactly the same never sound exactly the same for many reasons including different mics etc. the second trigger is just redundancy in case something happens. They are both wired up and running to the module.