Author Topic: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix  (Read 3303 times)

DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« on: July 27, 2015, 04:07:39 PM »
Hi everyone,

I've been a bit of a lurker on here, and used Hellfire's mesh head conversion method for my DM10 set.  It worked beautifully, and I've been playing on that for a good while now.

Now though, I have run into a problem - my bass drum has died on me.  In searching around on the forum, this appears to not be an uncommon problem, and these things apparently break fairly frequently, so it seems like buying a new one is not a very smart option, and I should just go for the fix.  I took it apart to see what the problem was - the sub-resonator plate (the plastic thing) became totally unattached from the metal plate.  However, even trying to re-attach it led to no signal, so I suspect the piezo might be dysfunctional as well.  Unfortunately, in my poor attempts to get this working, I pulled a bit too hard and severed the two wires... but ah well, those can be soldered.

Here are pics of the devastation: http://i.imgur.com/FXj1LK0.jpg     http://i.imgur.com/hxUdGca.jpg

I saw in a different thread about fixing bass drums on this site that the best strategy was to just not even bother with the sub-resonator - just attach the piezo directly to the metal plate, and to kind of put it near the bottom so it's not being hit directly by the beaters.  This seems sound to me, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about a few things.

1. Where would one go to get a replacement piezo?  I looked around online but couldn't find it exactly.
2. How does one attach the wires to the piezo and the metal plate?  Is it just one wire on the piezo, one on the plate?  Do you just use electrical tape, or some sort of glue?
3. Similarly, how do you attach the piezo to the metal plate?  Is this some heavy duty tape, or glue?

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere on the site - I looked around but couldn't find anything.  I appreciate any help you are willing to give!
Thanks,
Ryan

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Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2015, 05:14:15 PM »
The piezo comes with wires attached. Buy a couple of 27mm piezos on eBay - they are quite cheap. The wires are then soldered to the socket - or to extension wires soldered to the socket.
The piezo (with wires attached) is then glued or gaffer taped to wherever you want to place it. :)
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Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2015, 05:18:24 PM »
The piezo comes with wires attached. Buy a couple of 27mm piezos on eBay - they are quite cheap. The wires are then soldered to the socket - or to extension wires soldered to the socket.
The piezo (with wires attached) is then glued or gaffer taped to wherever you want to place it. :)

Agreed, but I would also state to just adhere the piezo to the main steel plate and don't worry about the plastic sub plate. Also, you might want to affix the piezo at the 6 o'clock position on the plate. This will keep it out of direct impact with the beater.
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Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2015, 07:14:59 PM »
Perfect, thanks very much for the info guys.  Just a quick question - any sort of glue / tape will work?  I just wonder - with the bass drum taking a beating as it does - if there's an optimal method to make sure that piezo sticks.

Thanks again!

Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2020, 12:01:31 PM »
Dear drummers,

   Which is the appropriated piezo's size for Alesis DM10X bass drum: 27mm or 35 mm? Thanks in advance.

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Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 12:53:33 PM »
Dear drummers,

   Which is the appropriated piezo's size for Alesis DM10X bass drum: 27mm or 35 mm? Thanks in advance.

Hi Jardelcarvalho,

Welcome to the forum. First things first. I get it, you don't know where to ask your question but, please don't spam the forum with the same question in different places. You will not get an answer any faster by doing so.
For more edrum info, be sure to visit my web site at:
          www.HellfireDrums.com                    
My current set-up:  Alesis DM10 and Trigger I/O with modified & DIY pads

Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 10:20:03 PM »
I have a lot of problems with the wire breaking at the piezo.  I have soldered heavier gauge wire on now.  Does not seem to affect anything.  Is that the solution?
Should I be using some kind of glue gooped all over the top of the soldered wires at the piezo?
Mentioned above to move the piezo off center away from the beaters. Maybe I should cut new foam so the entire circle thing can drop down lower, would that be a solution? I dont want to peel the piezo off as it is attached just fine.

Re: DM10 Bass Drum Piezo Fix
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:18:34 AM »
I use epoxi (no water needed) for the soldering joints of the piezo since I saw Roland using yellow glue to make the wires more stronger because they are easy to pull by accident. You can use hot glue like Alesis do in their components but not too much.

Steren sells good wires and very cheap, some extra length can help you to avoid pulling the wire again.

Removing the old piezo is easy with a hot hair dryer, acetone, knife (carefully) and other kind of products to clean and with the new piezo just use double sided tape so it can be easy to remove in the future but is very strong when is applied.
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