oh, just wanted to add, I've got all sorts of cables I use with my mixer or audio interface and I've found that most of them on the 35mm (mini stereo) end it doesn't push in all the way on my cellphone's outlet with my case on.. pain in the butt, I've got to remove the case to get a decent connection.. tried 3 brands and all the same.. hoping to find one someday that doesn't have a large plastic casing on the insertion end, would save me time and don't like having my phone sitting there slipping around without its cover.. I do put it on a rubbery pad but it's still a pain.. with the cellphone cover the plug doesn't make a good contact and it slips out if I pick up the phone to change the song or volume.