January 22, 2015? NAMM

[vaikl]

I guess you need to know those names to get the full effect...

John Emrich, one of FXpansions Masterminds, is sometimes lurking and sometimes posting here

[vaikl]

I see you highlighted some passages, but that's still light on what the thing will actually do. Either way it should be something interesting for sure!

"Open architecture is a type of computer architecture or software architecture that is designed to make adding, upgrading and swapping components easy" (from wiki)

And adding, upgrading and swapping components - maybe from different manufacturers - could be the next level of making electronically generated music. For example: Korg had announced their Open Architecture Synthesis Studio (OASYS) synths in 2005, which had a Linux-based operation system -> many more possibilities for customization of that OS. Something like that would be a beautiful dream for the DM10.

Also: Uncompressed audio libraries means terabyte-capable storage and an ultra-fast I/O system and processor, but unrivaled sound quality. I just don't wanna think about the price of that beast...

[rhysT]

"Open architecture is a type of computer architecture or software architecture that is designed to make adding, upgrading and swapping components easy" (from wiki)

And adding, upgrading and swapping components - maybe from different manufacturers - could be the next level of making electronically generated music. For example: Korg had announced their Open Architecture Synthesis Studio (OASYS) synths in 2005, which had a Linux-based operation system -> many more possibilities for customization of that OS. Something like that would be a beautiful dream for the DM10.

Also: Uncompressed audio libraries means terabyte-capable storage and an ultra-fast I/O system and processor, but unrivaled sound quality. I just don't wanna think about the price of that beast...

With no apparent SD card slot, I hope it's USB3 capable with direct access to the stick memory, as 64GB sticks are currently available for $27(A)

Not long to wait for this potential edrum game-changer!

[vaikl]

With no apparent SD card slot, I hope it's USB3 capable with direct access to the stick memory, as 64GB sticks are currently available for $27(A)

"Data" looks like a USB3 slot. But what about in-build SSD or a fast standard harddrive?

[vaikl]

Ok, some more light in the dark:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,2406.0.html

"digitalDrummer" (you know, the e-paper) says: "Just to be clear: it's an NFUZD kit, with BFDeco samples."
"Murgen" says: "All over digitaldrummers facebook. Most important info for me: BFD VST compatibel only. "

Seems to work only with BFD eco and BFD 3 VST (AU??) plugs. A hardware controller for FXpansion BFD software. Not really "open", but we'll see...

[ChrisK]

Ok, some more light in the dark:
http://www.2box-forum.com/index.php/topic,2406.0.html

"digitalDrummer" (you know, the e-paper) says: "Just to be clear: it's an NFUZD kit, with BFDeco samples."
"Murgen" says: "All over digitaldrummers facebook. Most important info for me: BFD VST compatibel only. "

Seems to work only with BFD eco and BFD 3 VST (AU??) plugs. A hardware controller for FXpansion BFD software. Not really "open", but we'll see...

I got new info, the module sound Internal came with BFD eco, but you can upgrade to BF3. The eKit will ship with BFD Eco, customers that upgrade to BFD3 can build their own multi-velocity user-imported kit pieces, by pressing exports. But BF3 allow to imports customs wave, look like open...so you could buy SDSE and import any vst drumkit software http://lustark.com/sdse to BF3 , I am not sure if this will available for this module tough.

Johnny Rabb actually joined KHS, from Digital drumming Group from Michael Shack

[Sal]

Ok ok ok! This could be a pretty big deal!

[Sal]

Also, is there a good site or blog to follow for NAMM news? I'm spoiled by things like how tech blogs cover CES and car blogs cover auto shows.

[Sal]

Whelp:

http://alesis.com/tradeshows/wnamm2015/index.html

Reading the release for the Mesh kits...the prices are offered in USD...there's nothing that says it's for non-U.S. markets only...

[Chaser]

...highly doubtful there is 88 dual zone inputs on the Sample Rack

Sample Rack
Percussion Module with Onboard Sound Storage
    88 dual-zone trigger inputs plus true kick and hi-hat inputs
    Uses SD/SDHC cards (up to 32GB) to import and trigger .WAV samples
    Includes 10 onboard, ready-to-play kits with over 200 percussion sounds
    1/4" stereo outputs (LT, R); 1/4" headphone output
    1/8" stereo aux input with level control; MIDI In & Out

[Sal]

Haha...maybe 8?

[vaikl]

I got new info, the module sound Internal came with BFD eco, but you can upgrade to BF3. The eKit will ship with BFD Eco, customers that upgrade to BFD3 can build their own multi-velocity user-imported kit pieces, by pressing exports. But BF3 allow to imports customs wave, look like open...so you could buy SDSE and import any vst drumkit software http://lustark.com/sdse to BF3 , I am not sure if this will available for this module tough.

You'll need the pretty expensive BFD3 to generate own samples. That's not what i call "open architecture". Also i'm curious if you must load eco or BFD3 before you can do anything with the kit or module. Standalone?

[ramses71]

Neat... new mesh head kits with Alesis own patent pending mesh technology (FMH). Mesh Kits available worldwide now given the press release:

http://alesis.com/tradeshows/wnamm2015/press-releases/MeshKits.pdf

[rhysT]

You'll need the pretty expensive BFD3 to generate own samples. That's not what i call "open architecture". Also i'm curious if you must load eco or BFD3 before you can do anything with the kit or module. Standalone?

Here's a better view of the NFUZD Nspire module from: http://blog.andertons.co.uk/drums/namm-2015-nfuzd-audio-nspire

I'm wondering about midi control of the module to possibly integrate it with a DM10 kit, and could be worth upgrading BFD2 to v3.

[Khes74]

Neat... new mesh head kits with Alesis own patent pending mesh technology (FMH). Mesh Kits available worldwide now given the press release:

http://alesis.com/tradeshows/wnamm2015/press-releases/MeshKits.pdf

Yeah they may be mesh heads but they are probably 1ply knowing Alesis.

[ChrisK]

http://www.fxpansion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7580610

* BFD Eco and BFD3 will have a new Export-To-Module function, which produces a sound bank for the NSPIRE eKit at the click of a button. The sound banks have all your BFD engineering and effects, and have multiple velocities. The entire library of BFD Expansion packs, over 1 TeraByte, can now be selected from and directly inserted into an eDrum brain!

* The NSPIRE module can be used as a low-latency ASIO or CoreAudio soundcard.

[Khes74]

Looking at the mesh head kit you can see the changed the style of triggering. I think it's still a plate but they use various points of contact(to prevent hot spotting). 

Interesting design

The contact points appear to be cylinder cones. For 8" it's probably 4 cones

For 10" maybe 5 or 6  and

for 12 it's probably 6 cones.

The 12" pads still look shallow

It looks like AHaydens82's conversion http://www.dmdrummer.com/index.php?topic=5023.0


This is what I looked at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXdCJtHAs8

[Sal]

Nice find. Also confirms it'll be available in the U.S.

GC link: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Search/Default.aspx?internal=1&browser=&fsrc=Alesis%20DM10%20Mesh&source=4GOA4LOBA

[Hellfire]

This is what I looked at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXdCJtHAs8

Good video. This video has a little more you guys might like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z91WpKG1cwI

Side note: That adjustment is a good idea (and has been around for a while in the DIY community), I just wish companies (Alesis and Pintech) would have done it sooner.
As an example have a look at this:




These images (which have been on my website since 2007) are taken of my edrum kit from way back in 2001 (I've actually been using these since 1998, look at edrum Set#3 in the Gallery).  For those interested in more info: http://www.hellfiredrums.com/gallery/

[Sal]

So it's a PHYSICAL sensitivity adjustment? Very cool!

[tk87]

it feels like Alesis is so behind that they are releasing these "new products" and most of the users here have done it themselves a while ago lol like mesh head for example... yea... we all have that already Alesis...

so the real question is, what is so special about this dm10x mesh kit that we would spend another grand to upgrade it for something we already have?

[Khes74]

it feels like Alesis is so behind that they are releasing these "new products" and most of the users here have done it themselves a while ago lol like mesh head for example... yea... we all have that already Alesis...

so the real question is, what is so special about this dm10x mesh kit that we would spend another grand to upgrade it for something we already have?

Well besides the knob adjustment there is the less hot spotting trigger design, it should be less bouncy than Rolands or 682 Cone conversions also though.

[JimmyB]

I've never had a hotspot issue with the reflecter plate and mesh heads.
JimmyB

[Khes74]

I've never had a hotspot issue with the reflecter plate and mesh heads.
JimmyB

Well granted if you manage to hit right on top there could be an issue. Alesis probably has a reason... Patents, maybe? Also it would be less bouncy like I said before. Maybe the reflector plate works better with multiple points of contact.

[tk87]

what makes this mesh pad less bouncier?