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Help needed with DM10X Ride cymbal
peter666:
Hi all,
First of all, I checked and double-checked the forum and I couldn't find a fix to my problem with the Ride cymbal on my DM10X.
Recently I have lost the bell sound on my ride cymbal. I did not make any changes to any settings for that to happen. I tried to follow some fixes here with no result. Still the same.
I have the bell input set to 'switch' and mode to '3 zones'. That's how it's always been and always worked fine. Now, when I hit the bell I get the same sound as the bow sound.
When I switch bell input to 'piezo' I get bell sound on both bow and the bell. I also tried changing crosstalk settings but that didn't change anything.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Hellfire:
--- Quote from: peter666 on January 01, 2020, 12:43:50 PM ---Hi all,
First of all, I checked and double-checked the forum and I couldn't find a fix to my problem with the Ride cymbal on my DM10X.
Recently I have lost the bell sound on my ride cymbal. I did not make any changes to any settings for that to happen. I tried to follow some fixes here with no result. Still the same.
I have the bell input set to 'switch' and mode to '3 zones'. That's how it's always been and always worked fine. Now, when I hit the bell I get the same sound as the bow sound.
When I switch bell input to 'piezo' I get bell sound on both bow and the bell. I also tried changing crosstalk settings but that didn't change anything.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
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I don't know how handy you are, but (don't attempt if you are not handy) you might want to try to open up the cymbal and double check to make sure the bell switch didn't get disconnected. Sometimes (in gerneral) those mylar switch ends will slip out of the the connector on the PCB. If it isn't that then it sounds like your bell switch went bad. I'm sorry to say but, you might have to just replace the cymbal at that point.
peter666:
Thanks for your reply Hellfire. I did open up the cymbal no problem, checked all the connections and they seemed fine. Then, just to be on the safe side, I unclipped the mylar switch ends and put them back together. Still the same.
I then performed factory reset of the module and reuploaded the most recent firmware (all the steps incl triggers, rom etc.) That didn't help either.
Do you think there is a way of fixing that without replacing? I can certainly fix the PCB, try and source the parts and replace them. I tried looking for the Alesis DMPad 16'' 3 zone ride but on Alesis website it says it's been discontinued and I could not find another one online.
Not sure if this isn't a problem with the jack socket too. When I unplug the jack from the brain just slightly so that only one area on the jack sleeve in connected the bell works.
Any ideas?
Hellfire:
--- Quote from: peter666 on January 02, 2020, 05:03:55 PM ---Thanks for your reply Hellfire. I did open up the cymbal no problem, checked all the connections and they seemed fine. Then, just to be on the safe side, I unclipped the mylar switch ends and put them back together. Still the same.
I then performed factory reset of the module and reuploaded the most recent firmware (all the steps incl triggers, rom etc.) That didn't help either.
Do you think there is a way of fixing that without replacing? I can certainly fix the PCB, try and source the parts and replace them. I tried looking for the Alesis DMPad 16'' 3 zone ride but on Alesis website it says it's been discontinued and I could not find another one online.
Not sure if this isn't a problem with the jack socket too. When I unplug the jack from the brain just slightly so that only one area on the jack sleeve in connected the bell works.
Any ideas?
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Since you are handy, and you think there might be an issue with the jack, you just might want to change it out or hit the connections of the jack on the PCB with a soldering iron. Just to make sure the jack is fully attached.
As to fixing the bell switch itself, I've never pulled apart an Alesis DMPad 16" so I don't know if the rubber will come off easy enough to do that. I believe the DMPad 16" is just a standard two jack 3 zone ride, so any ride cymbal with that set-up "should" (I say should because I can not 100% verify this statement as I don't own every know cymbal trigger) work. Sometimes it's easier to replace than to repair. That's where ebay comes in.
peter666:
Thanks for the advice and apologies for a late reply. I haven't attempted it yet, I mean I attempted it partly but disassembling the rubber around bell proved a bit difficult. I wanted to find out some more info on how it's built not to damage anything beyond repair. Also, I could not find any 3-zone 16'' ride anywhere online. There are only some 14''. No chance of finding 16'' Alesis one for replacement.
Do you know how the rubber is attached to the plastic cymbal? Is it some with sort of a glue, grooves etc?
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