Author Topic: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES  (Read 1230 times)

Offline Chaser

Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« on: November 18, 2020, 10:11:49 AM »
Yamaha DTX6 SERIES

DTX6K-X





DTX6K2-X




DTX6K3-X


DTX-PRO Drum Module



The DTX6 Series features the innovative KIT MODIFIER, which sparks creativity and delivers superb performance in a compact configuration.
The original Yamaha TCS (Textured Cellular Silicone) head used in the flagship models combines with real sound and ambience recorded in a world-renowned studio to provide an authentic playing experience.
The DTX6 Series is recommended for all drummers who want to have fun, play like a pro and hope to easily transfer their skills to acoustic drums.

DTX6K-X SERIES

SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON

Yamaha | DTX6K-X | Overview Video

Yamaha | DTX6K2-X | Overview Video

Yamaha | DTX6K3-X | Overview

Yamaha | DTX6K-X | El Estepario Siberiano | Performance

Yamaha | DTX6K2-X | Keli Guđjónsson | Performance

Yamaha | DTX6K3-X | Joel Cassady | Performance

EDIT:
There is a Drum/Pad shown in the DTX-PRO Manual pg 24 that is not listed in the XP Series nor included with any kit on the Yamaha site and Silicone pads usually don't require drum lugs..
Maybe a hint of more to come...

« Last Edit: November 18, 2020, 08:29:03 PM by Chaser »

Offline Hellfire

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 11:01:11 PM »
I like these new offerings from Yamaha. When you consider the price:

These kits look even better.

Yamaha DTX6K-X Electronic Drum Set

Product Price $999.99

Yamaha DTX6K2-X Electronic Drum Set
Product Price $1,499.99

Yamaha DTX6K3-X Electronic Drum Set
Product Price $1,799.99

I would also like to point out that even at these price points the module still has individual pad inputs. Not that DB25 stuff here. Nice...
For more edrum info, be sure to visit my web site at:
          www.HellfireDrums.com                    
My current set-up:  Alesis DM10 and Trigger I/O with modified & DIY pads

Offline Chaser

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2020, 12:20:59 AM »
I am sure the current Yamaha DTX owners are happy as according to the Press release....
"The module is compatible with all current DTX pads, as well as with other triggering devices and pads. "

The DTX-PRO Module is also available separately MSRP $1.066.00..so the biggest bang for your buck is probably the DTX6K-X.
I also seen mention of Positional Sensing in the manual...

Offline ChrisK

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2020, 04:48:53 AM »
Module is 799$ it supports position sensing (which is expired) it's new sound engine multilayering with round robin mixed with ead tec, include instrument real studio room channel recording + FX, higher resolution sound, low latency, 3 zones on each cymbal, at these price range most feature are not available with quality parts and out of the box sound. Notice you can layers up to 4 layers per zones on each triggers, you can blend wav with internal instrument as well. (64MB 380sec stereo total)

Newer model is to follow with higher range module, that will include mesh snare multi zone, larger ride. They are using the smaller one on these kit.

« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 02:53:52 AM by ChrisK »

Offline ChrisK

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 03:01:06 PM »
699$ USD module, it's a steal price for those feature and sound quality.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DTX-PRO--yamaha-dtx-pro-drum-module


Audio example
The recordings were made direct to the USB drive on the DTXPRO module with no additional processing. Its totally raw. Some presets and some customs
(There's one non-Yamaha sample in there - the snares-off sound - just to demonstrate using User Samples. These have up to 120 user samples per pad - 40 on the head and 40 on each rim, 10 layers and 4 round robin samples. However, this sample has 30 on each, so is 90 samples total)"
https://soundcloud.com/imondgoose/sets/yamaha-dtx6-dtxpro-audio-examples?fbclid=IwAR18BpRUqQRmuVrRP-IMWUM11nhHUtP09OBpW8DgIsB7awJgb3Sq0467Cfk
« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 04:13:12 PM by ChrisK »

Offline Hellfire

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2020, 10:23:55 AM »
699$ USD module, it's a steal price for those feature and sound quality.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DTX-PRO--yamaha-dtx-pro-drum-module


Audio example
The recordings were made direct to the USB drive on the DTXPRO module with no additional processing. Its totally raw. Some presets and some customs
(There's one non-Yamaha sample in there - the snares-off sound - just to demonstrate using User Samples. These have up to 120 user samples per pad - 40 on the head and 40 on each rim, 10 layers and 4 round robin samples. However, this sample has 30 on each, so is 90 samples total)"
https://soundcloud.com/imondgoose/sets/yamaha-dtx6-dtxpro-audio-examples?fbclid=IwAR18BpRUqQRmuVrRP-IMWUM11nhHUtP09OBpW8DgIsB7awJgb3Sq0467Cfk

At that price point, that module sounds great! Of course that's just one kit I just realized there are more samples on that soundcloud account. Wow!

I'm sure some of the other kits are not as detailed, but that's fine at that price. And again, individual trigger inputs (no DB25 connection) which is a huge thing at this price point. It really does open up for the idea of mix&match and DIY triggers with the module.

Yes, I know not many people DIY full compatible triggers for Yamaha, but it is possible. Heck, it looks like at least the snare input handles piezo/piezo triggers.

And one more thing, I know many people don't like rubber pads, but Yamaha rubber (or silicone) pads feel a heck of a lot better than other rubber pads.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 10:33:18 AM by Hellfire »
For more edrum info, be sure to visit my web site at:
          www.HellfireDrums.com                    
My current set-up:  Alesis DM10 and Trigger I/O with modified & DIY pads

Offline Chaser

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2020, 12:18:28 PM »
DTX-PRO module Tutorial Videos

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Adjusting the crosstalk settings

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Adjusting the module output gain

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Backing up Audio Information

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Basic Navigation

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Changing a voice (single zone)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Changing a voice (whole pad)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Controlling loops

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Filtering a Voice

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | How to correctly set up your trigger settings

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Layering voices

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Mixing the kit sounds

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Module Click

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Muffling a voice (single zone)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Muffling a voice (whole pad)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Reordering your drum kits

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Routing the audio inputs

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Setting the tempo per kit

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Storing, naming and duplicating kits

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Tuning a voice (single zone)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Tuning a Voice (whole pad)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Updating The Module

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the Compression

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the EQ

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the Insert Effects

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the Kit Modifiers (Ambience)

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the recorder function

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the training functions

DTX-PRO module Tutorial Video | Using the Transient Modifier


Offline Hellfire

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2020, 10:56:39 PM »
Layering voices could be very powerful. Is it possible to edit those layers based on velocity?
For more edrum info, be sure to visit my web site at:
          www.HellfireDrums.com                    
My current set-up:  Alesis DM10 and Trigger I/O with modified & DIY pads

Offline Chaser

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 12:30:48 AM »
Layering voices could be very powerful. Is it possible to edit those layers based on velocity?

I am waiting for the Reference manual and Data list...The DTX-PRO Owners manual refers to those in many parts of the manual.
Yamaha Owners manuals and reference manuals are entirely 2 different things especially when compared to Alesis "User Guides"
Years ago I picked up the DTX700 on a trade , but no pads...I remember going through it and the Yamaha modules are quite a bit different..more complex  ..a lot of detailed editing can be done especially in the FX ..a lot of it is MIDI , which can be confusing for some(most) if they come from using an Alesis module  as it reads like you are programming it for being a MIDI controller..which you are,but for internal use..

There are quite a few similarities in the DTX700 reference manual  from what I have seen and read on the DTX-PRO module.




There are "modes" for the layers..stack..alternate and alternate hold.
Here are a couple pages for parameters for the layers (A-D) and MIDI programming for gate and velocity ranges etc.. see if you can make heads or tails from it....hopefully the DTX-PRO isn't a "dumbed down" version to appeal to those who want simple editing features.






EDIT:
Fixed bad link
« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 12:44:52 PM by Chaser »

Offline ChrisK

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2020, 01:27:21 AM »
Layering voices could be very powerful. Is it possible to edit those layers based on velocity?

You can layer 4 instruments per zone for all trigger input, even bell zone which are in all cymbal crash\ride. Each layers can have it's own velocity switch setting like layer1 (0-20), layer2- (21-50) , layer 3, (51-70) etc..

Mesh head works.

You can imports your own multisample layers\round robin to the 64MB, from the 7 track, the last one on the snare was user sample layer\round robin.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 01:33:40 AM by ChrisK »

Offline Chaser

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2020, 05:21:45 PM »
The DTX-PRO Module Reference Manual and DATA List have been released

YAMAHA DTX-PRO Reference Manual

YAMAHA DTX-PRO Data List

Offline Chaser

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2020, 10:53:27 PM »
Here is a very good video for the DTX-PRO module In-depth look at the Yamaha DTX6.
Released a couple days ago..

2:02 The 3 kits
3:25 The rack
3:46 KP90 Bass Drum Pad
4:16 TCS (Textured Cellular Silicone) Head Material – How It Works
5:32 DTX PRO Module
06:00 Triggering
06:16 The Sounds
06:42 Acoustic presets
08:45 Electronic drums and VSTi's
09:52 How drums are recorded in the studio
10:27 How many electronic kits work
10:44 How the DTX PRO module works
11:12 The DTX PRO workflow
11:25 Factory and User kits
11:40 Editing the sounds
13:01 Channel FX
13:39 EQ on cymbals
15:38 How the Transient Adjustment work
16:24 The Kit Modifiers
17:00 The Ambience Modifier
17:19 How the Ambience Modifier works
17:57 The Compression Modifier
18:19 How compression works
19:00 The Effect Modifier
19:19 How the Effect Modifier works
19:50 Modifiers real world situation
22:23 Editing the effects
23:53 2 effects processors
25:06 Presets with effects
25:57 Real gated reverb
27:12 Filtering the whole kit
27:46 Adding 2 effects onto a kit sound (Bonham)
28:41 Hit Point Detection (Positional Sensing)
29:51 Samples
30:16 Sample Examples
32:02 Stacking – Stack/Alt
33:00 Velocity Stacking
34:00 Cymbal stacking
34:33 User Voices (multi layer samples)
34:53 How User Voices work
36:26 USB - Audio and MIDI
37:46 Choosing a track on the USB drive
38:01 Recording to the USB drive
38:21 Recording without a computer
40:00 Training Functions
41:09 Rec'n'share App for iOS and Android
45:27 Cubase AI
45:50 In conclusion
« Last Edit: December 23, 2020, 11:06:45 PM by Chaser »

Offline Chaser

Re: Yamaha DTX6 SERIES
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2020, 11:15:22 PM »
DTX-PRO V1.01 Update

    V1.00 to V1.01

    Added the DTX502 series drum kits to the Trigger Setup Wizard.
    Fine-adjusted the MENU/Trigger/Crosstalk settings. Since the settings are slightly different from those of version 1.00, readjust the crosstalk settings if
    necessary.       
    Added -6dB, -12dB, and 18dB to the MENU/Utility/Output Gain settings.
    Added PA-HP to the MENU/Utility/Input Output/AUX In/Input Mode settings.
    Added AUX In Gain to the MENU/Utility/Input Output settings.
    Changed setting ranges for some parameters.
    Updated the displays on some screens.
    Fixed minor problems.

DTX-PRO V1.01 Firmware Updater

USB Flash Drive Compatibility List