Author Topic: Alesis Trigger I/O vs ddrum DDTi (New Generation)  (Read 202 times)

Offline Chaser

Alesis Trigger I/O vs ddrum DDTi (New Generation)
« on: October 14, 2024, 12:35:27 AM »
Alesis TriggerI/O vs ddrum DDTi.

They are Not the same.
The New Generation of the DDTi was released April 2023 and I tried multiple times to get all the info from DDrum..ie if earlier DDTi Models accepted the New Firmware or anything to watch out for so no one would brick their Module ..Alesis Compatibility etc etc..however to date..never received a response (Not Interested?) so I have decided..without further delay (over a year and multiple emails) to post what I have before I forget to.
The Latest DDTi Firmware Update (July 2023)..will NOT install and is NOT Compatible with the TriggerI/O..and the Syx (removed from the Updater app) also will NOT Transfer.

(5) New Trigger presets PP 1-5
(7) New Hi Hat presets
0-20 Program Changes received through USB.
New Microprocessor(s)

DDTi Manual

pg 16

Hi Hat Settings - HH 1-7
Hi-Hat pedal which has 7 variations to choose from.
These variations are compatible with most of the hi hat pedals in today?s market.

Piezo Settings - PP1-PP5
Trigger Type PP has 5 variations.
check all variations if your pad or trigger falls under this trigger type and is not functioning properly.

Product Details:

    A simple way to convert your drum pads  or triggers into midi
    10 trs trigger inputs accommodate single or dual-zone triggers
    Multiple hi-hat control options let you get the expression you need
    Easy user interface makes creating and editing user setups painless
    USB output lets you control your virtual instrument drums
    MIDI output provides connectivity with hardware drum modules and synths
    Customizable trigger settings let you define the feel of your drums
    20 programmable presets allow you to store and recall your setups
    Works as an input expander with virtually any drum module
    Velocity sensitive for expressive control
    Works plug-and-play with Mac and PC (no software drivers needed)
    Compatible with the new Apple M-Series Chipsets
    More trigger and pad presets (compatible with the most popular drum pads and triggers on the market)
    More hi-hat trigger/pad presets

PRESS RELEASE 2023
ddrum Launches Next-Generation DDTi Drum Trigger Interface

The only info to backup the New microprocessor claim is a review on Sweetwater..

Sweetwater Review

"I'm a former 'Alesis Trigger iO' owner, so I knew how to use this and what it could do. However, this new updated 2023 unit from DDrum is indeed better than the Alesis Trigger iO----it's faster; zero latency for me using 32GB RAM on a Lenovo T460 laptop. I think that the new microprocessor chips that they use now on most circuit boards have made huge gains in just the last 3 or 4 years. I read a few other online reviews on this unit and this thing WORKS for me 100% with Windows 10 right out of the box. A few people online have been worried about that. I use Reaper and it recognized it right away in the device list as "ddti".


Youtube Video with New Generation DDTi used for DEMO.



EDIT:
Added Image and Links
« Last Edit: October 14, 2024, 09:09:27 AM by Chaser »

Offline Hellfire

Re: Alesis Trigger I/O vs ddrum DDTi (New Generation)
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2024, 10:34:39 AM »
This may be all well and good but, How does the DDTi handle Piezo/Switch pads (i.e. most ecymbals that are consider dual zone with choke)? I ask because in the past the switches on these devices never had velocity sensitivity on them. Meaning the two zones are truly independent (switch is not looking at the piezo for velocity info). If this is still the case, then as far as I'm concerned there is nothing new here. Because that was the major fail on this device. With a standard dual zone with choke cymbal there are only two different ways to set it up and both have drawbacks.

1) You can set the cymbal up as a single zone with choke (meaning you loose the dual zone aspect) or
2) You can set the cymbal up as dual zone with no choke and no velocity on the switch(edge) zone.

Has this been fixed yet?
« Last Edit: October 16, 2024, 02:56:39 PM by Hellfire »

Offline Chaser

Re: Alesis Trigger I/O vs ddrum DDTi (New Generation)
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2024, 02:18:27 PM »
Important questions I had in my emails along with request for any changelogs since it became a ddrum product. (Trigger IO v1.02.)
I figured by posting eventually someone with a DDTi will read and respond..otherwise purchasing one and testing it would probably be the only other option and I haven't come across a used one for a decent price ($180.00 is high for a TMI that has sub-par Features an Entry level Module has) since the Press Release (2023) when I also inquired numerous times if there was anything (older model..etc) that I should avoid that could not be updated with the New Firmware which I presume would indicate/support the New Microprocessor(s) claim.
No Response...
Sometimes silence speaks louder than words.
If you want to promote an improved product and eliminate the TriggerIO "same as" comparison you would expect some kind of response.

EDIT:
I had another more recent Video(Removed it) for Trigger Settings with the New DDTi but he didn't setup any Cymbals..and kept pointing out the PP settings as standing for Piezo Pickup..which for the IO and DDTi refers to Piezo/Piezo
« Last Edit: October 14, 2024, 02:40:54 PM by Chaser »