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Alesis Nitro Max notation map?
DaveE:
Hi
A very recent purchaser of the above and total newbie. I get a free subscription to Drumeo for a while, and I've downloaded the Drum Notation Key. I'm confused over whether (for example) I can do a Hi-hat (half) on the Alesis, and if there's a drum map showing notation matching the Nitro Max. I'm prepared to buy a book on e-drums but don't know if it's necessary or if it matches the Nitro Max. I do have Guitar Pro but the notation doesn't quite match the kit either.
Any advice appreciated.
Chaser:
--- Quote from: DaveE on March 14, 2024, 03:49:43 PM ---Hi
A very recent purchaser of the above and total newbie. I get a free subscription to Drumeo for a while, and I've downloaded the Drum Notation Key. I'm confused over whether (for example) I can do a Hi-hat (half) on the Alesis, and if there's a drum map showing notation matching the Nitro Max. I'm prepared to buy a book on e-drums but don't know if it's necessary or if it matches the Nitro Max. I do have Guitar Pro but the notation doesn't quite match the kit either.
Any advice appreciated.
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Welcome to the Forum !..
Being New to E-drumming..are you familiar with how Drum Modules work?..
They are basically TMI..Trigger to MIDI Interfaces.
The "Hits" are converted to a MIDI signal then sent to either..Onboard Sound Generator/Sounds or out to trigger Hardware/Software/vst/ etc.
That being said..
The Nitro MAX Module does have a MIDI assignment for 1/2 open..MIDI Note 23
User Guide pg 25...MIDI Map also attached
so it's capable of sending a 1/2 open to Hardware/Software/Vst etc...
Unfortunately...I don't see any individual 1/2 Open Articulations in the Onboard Sound List...just Open/Closed/Splash..also attached.
It also looks like there may be a Typo..HH Pad..which should be HH Ped (Pedal)
I am not familiar with this module as it was recently released (Officially Feb..same day as BFD Player) and have no experience with one.
There are 7 Hi Hat Combinations (H-C, 001-007). , which typically means the Open > Closed is controlled by CC..(Pedal Position).
I take it none of those have a 1/2 open sound?..or is it really hard to find it holding down the pedal.
Continuous/Variable Pedals take some practice to get the correct pressure..especially if you are New to E-drumming.
If you are using Training Software etc like Melodics the requirement is to put the Module into GM Mode (General MIDI )..Hi Hat is Open/Closed Only.
The Hi Hat pedal will act like an Open/Closed/Switch Type pedal.(No 1/2 Open or Variable/Continuous.. CC4)
I am not familiar with Drumeo and if there is an online Drum Coach type app like Melodics...I don't believe it has one like Melodics.
It is mainly lessons/teachers.
EDIT:
Added Links images
DaveE:
Thank You Chaser.
I'll look again at the manual. When all else fails....:)
The kit does come with a 30 day intro to Melodics, which I haven't taken advantage of yet. I've tried to see if the pedal works but as you say I'm a newbie.
Bear with my ignorance but is it a case of closing down the pedal a little and then using a drumstick on the pad - or does the sound emanate by using the pedal?
With apologies for a sort of double post (I mentioned this in my intro), I have Guitar Pro software and some of the songs I have (my guitar collected some dust) includes drum tracks, and GP's drum notation is more extensive, so for example there is Ride (middle) and Ride (edge). It has the Hi-Hat (Half). I've just started using the software by placing my Chromebook (I just purchased the android version of GP) onto a music stand and connecting to the module with Bluetooth.
Works well except the drum track has those Hi-Hat (half) etc. Really no biggie as I can substitute just an open hit or something.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Edit: The nitro max faq on the website shows this -
"Is the Hi-Hat pedal a continuous or a switch-type pedal?
The Hi-Hat pedal included with the Nitro Max Kit is a continuous variable type pedal. This pedal allows for open, half-open, and closed hi-hat sounds, and will also allow for "chick" and "splash" sounds when the pedal is pressed down and released without striking the hi-hat cymbal pad."
Chaser:
--- Quote from: DaveE on March 14, 2024, 07:34:40 PM ---Thank You Chaser.
I'll look again at the manual. When all else fails.... :)
The kit does come with a 30 day intro to Melodics, which I haven't taken advantage of yet. I've tried to see if the pedal works but as you say I'm a newbie.
Bear with my ignorance but is it a case of closing down the pedal a little and then using a drumstick on the pad - or does the sound emanate by using the pedal?
With apologies for a sort of double post (I mentioned this in my intro), I have Guitar Pro software and some of the songs I have (my guitar collected some dust) includes drum tracks, and GP's drum notation is more extensive, so for example there is Ride (middle) and Ride (edge). It has the Hi-Hat (Half). I've just started using the software by placing my Chromebook (I just purchased the android version of GP) onto a music stand and connecting to the module with Bluetooth.
Works well except the drum track has those Hi-Hat (half) etc. Really no biggie as I can substitute just an open hit or something.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Edit: The nitro max faq on the website shows this -
"Is the Hi-Hat pedal a continuous or a switch-type pedal?
The Hi-Hat pedal included with the Nitro Max Kit is a continuous variable type pedal. This pedal allows for open, half-open, and closed hi-hat sounds, and will also allow for "chick" and "splash" sounds when the pedal is pressed down and released without striking the hi-hat cymbal pad."
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The Nitro Max is an Entry level Module..Single Zone Toms..Single Zone Cymbals...Single Zone Ride..so there will not be an Edge or Bell..only Bow.Middle is considered the Bow.
The Toms show a rim in the mapping...but I believe they are only single Zone as they don't have a Physical Rim on them..so they may be able to be upgraded to Dual Zone Toms..it has never been confirmed since I asked in this Topic.
The description for the pedal is the normal typical description of a Variable/Continuous Hi Hat pedal..Open is pedal up during hit..No Hit,pedal held down is Chick..Pedal held down while hitting is Closed..down/up without hitting the cymbal is the Splash.
The Module is only going to send the 1/2 Open MIDI Note (23) when the module interprets the hit as 1/2 Open and that's when you strike the top cymbal at the same time the pedal is 1/2 open..that's where the practice comes in and finding the Sweet Spot (pressure) on the Pedal.
DaveE:
Thank You Sir - that helps alot.
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