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DM10 MK2 Kick trigger still too sensitive
« on: July 26, 2023, 04:55:50 PM »
Hello All!

I have a DM10 Mk2 pro kit and I cannot get the kick to stop double triggering. I have the threshold maxed as well as the retrig and even in FL studio I have SSD5.5 Threshold maxed.

But I still get double triggers. I know I play double kick and maybe a little harder than some but even when just testing, the amount of force I have to use to have it trigger is just too little.

Is there anything I can do physically to help? I have only dabbled in head tension/spring tension.

Thank you!

Offline Chaser

Re: DM10 MK2 Kick trigger still too sensitive
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2023, 08:37:41 PM »
Hello All!

I have a DM10 Mk2 pro kit and I cannot get the kick to stop double triggering. I have the threshold maxed as well as the retrig and even in FL studio I have SSD5.5 Threshold maxed.

But I still get double triggers. I know I play double kick and maybe a little harder than some but even when just testing, the amount of force I have to use to have it trigger is just too little.

Is there anything I can do physically to help? I have only dabbled in head tension/spring tension.

Thank you!

Welcome to the Forum !

Usually too high a setting for Threshold or Retrig-C or Both causes you to lose hits....Not Double triggering.
The Default settings for the Kick is not for Double Kick or Metal drummers and are way too high (especially if you are a Heavy Hitter or bury the Beater) and don't allow much room for adjustment..

KICK DEFAULT SETTINGS (Max setting=32)

Threshold...28
Sensitivity...22
Rertig-C... 30
Curve.. EXP-1 (usually..hard hits to make changes)

Try
Threshold...15-20
Sensitivity...5-10
Retrig-C...15
Curve..Normal..(if you want any dynamics..soft to Loud)..if you don't and rather have the kick ramp up fast..set to LOUD Curve=consistent MIDI..

Then make adjustments while your playing from there..raise the Sensitivity but keep it as low as possible....Threshold as High as possible.
If the sensitivity is too low you can adjust the Threshold even lower..Kicks get much harder hits than anything else.
Never use a Felt beater without a Patch..it will disintegrate or fuse the head.

The DM10 MKII Pro has the Newer Kick Tower Design..
Unlike the older style where the Kick drum and the tower were separate.. the newer models have the Piezo attached lower to the Tower and the shell/hoop is just a cover to hold the Mesh Head and a Pad in the center which also absorbs/transfers the vibration to the Piezo..too high sensitivity and anything that makes even the slightest contact with the tower (including the pedal at the base/attachment or the 2nd beater) will be interpreted as a hit..a number of User Guides manuals recommend the "LOUD" Curve for metal/Double kicks.
As mentioned above... too high a setting for Threshold or Retrig-C or Both causes you to lose hits....Not Double triggering.
Too high Sensitivity...everything triggers a hit.
Sometimes it's best/easier to just set sensitivity to Zero/0 and Threshold to Max (32) and work your way to the middle,adjusting as you play.

ALL drum modules are TMI (Trigger MIDI Interfaces) the MIDI is either sent to the Onboard Sound Generator or to an Outboard Sound Generator (Software).The Module is the "Constant"..Always setup the module/triggers to perform/play well and consistently before using software...when dialed in you'll have much less problems and then use the software/Vst for fine tuning.The Software/Vst is designed for having a more realistic experience with higher quality articulations/samples and dynamic ranges.Don't expect the Software to fix the modules performance or you'll find yourself always spending more time tweaking the software (back to square one) each time you use/change it instead of focusing on the music.
Everyone plays differently....never hitting the same spot with the same velocity twice so there isn't a "One for All" Trigger setting.
The DM10 MKII Pro is the only Alesis Module that allows you to save multiple Trigger Settings so you can experiment..save..reload later for adjustment.
Over time you get Dialed in playing the Kit so  you'll be making adjustments/Fine Tuning
This trigger Setting/Saving Feature also works well for storing Trigger Settings for different types of playing for different styles/types of Music.
You can add more than the number on the USB..I have created Folders of 99 for others.(100 is the Limit for ALL Folders..you then just Create Multiple Folders.

EDIT:
I made up/attached a quick reference Chart for the DM10 MKII Pro Trigger/Parameter Adjustments.
The Alesis User Guides  are extremely Vague..at best.

DM10 MKII PRO USER GUIDE
« Last Edit: July 28, 2023, 12:19:31 PM by Chaser »

Re: DM10 MK2 Kick trigger still too sensitive
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2023, 09:58:56 PM »
Holy crap, thank you so much for all the info!! I will start parsing through everything and will report back!!

Cheers!!