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Exhumus:

--- Quote from: Hellfire on December 22, 2009, 09:11:34 AM ---I wouldn't worry about that. I don't think that is going to happen. I would like to point out that there is talk over at DTXperience that there should be an announcement regarding their DTXPRESS line sometime in the near future too. I think they will be incorporating there new pads into the kit.

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Yeah... unfortunately no MIDI IN and no USB means short of sending the module back to base for a firmware update (which isn't out of the question) there's no way the new pads are going to work on the IV.

I'm thinking of expanding my pads in the near future. If I could get one of these new snares I might have considered using my TP100S as a 4th tom.

At a minimum though the new pads and the Xtreme firmware update should mean at a minimum plenty of the Xtreme III pads finding their way onto Ebay as people upgrade.

Hellfire:

--- Quote from: WOUND4SOUND on December 22, 2009, 05:26:52 PM ---is this still a reflection plate design phil? or is it a whole new concept with the silicon cell?

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Yes, solid surface pads (rubber, silicone and base on the video cut away I saw) are still a types of reflection plate. They are the original type of reflection plate triggers actually. I know the silicone (not silicon, silicon is what they make computer chips out of) pads are going to feel great. I know because of the the experiments I did over the summer with silicone oven mitts.

goony:
I am hoping that Yamaha do release details on a mid price point kit, similar price point to TD9 ish, as the current DTXpress not quite upto it, in my view.

Exhumus:

--- Quote from: goony on December 23, 2009, 05:36:42 AM ---I am hoping that Yamaha do release details on a mid price point kit, similar price point to TD9 ish, as the current DTXpress not quite upto it, in my view.

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TD9 (not SX - $1499.97@Sweetwater lists $1999.00):
2 zone snare
3 x 2 zone toms
kick
2 zone hihat
2 zone ride
2 zone crash

+

additional zone for ride
2 zone crash
2 zone aux

= 15 trigger zones (+ additional 5 with expansion) = 20 trigger zones

DTXpress IV Special ($1299.99@Sweetwater lists $1949.99):
3 zone snare
3 x single zone toms
kick
2 zone hihat
3 zone crash
single zone crash
3 zone ride

+

3 aux trigger inputs

= 16 (+ 3 pads with expansion) = 19 trigger zones

It's really a matter of taste whether you prefer the Yamaha sampling approach over the Roland Sampling/COSM approach, and then whether you like having Roland's entry level mesh snare over Yamaha's top end gum rubber snare. Yamaha cymbals are an easy win IMO, and while you can update the TD9 to a VH11 at considerable expense the XPress IV has RHH135 out of the box.

I think they come fairly close to eachother and it comes mostly down to preference. The all mesh TD9 would win hands down - but that's another US$1200 and you still don't have the VH11.

WOUND4SOUND:

--- Quote from: Hellfire on December 22, 2009, 11:48:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: WOUND4SOUND on December 22, 2009, 05:26:52 PM ---is this still a reflection plate design phil? or is it a whole new concept with the silicon cell?

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Yes, solid surface pads (rubber, silicone and base on the video cut away I saw) are still a types of reflection plate. They are the original type of reflection plate triggers actually. I know the silicone (not silicon, silicon is what they make computer chips out of) pads are going to feel great. I know because of the the experiments I did over the summer with silicone oven mitts.

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now from what i looked for on the net the oven mitts are a silicone gel much like a breast implant could a foam be used i found several possibilities for foam and sponge but as you said there is a price curve to it i found a 36" x 36" sheet of silicone rubber sponge for $170 which would do a few pads i might try a smaller piece for use on the bass drum as a test (btw phil i got my shells rolled and the rest of the materials on the way i should have the finished product the 2nd week of january im excited to play them ) theres another material i seen that gave me a idea its called elephant bark i got tons at work imm try it out see where it goes.

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