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Is the Pro-X Hi-Hat still for sale anywhere
pejannl:
I have the Crimson II SE since a month or so. I like the set and it suits my (current) needs quite well. The only thing I don't like is the Hi-Hat pedal. I have to step really firmly to generate a 'closed' sound.
I tried to add the Hi-Hat controller set from Drum-tec but that controller only supports open/closed with the Crimson II SE module. No chick and no splash sounds.
I wonder whether the Pro-X Hi-hat is any better as the module has a special setting for the Pro-X. But... Where can I buy the Pro-X Hi-Hat? It seems to be out of production and I can not find any shops in Europe which still have one in stock. Is there anyone who knows of an Alesis Pro-X Hi-Hat for sale, be it new or used?
Thanks in advance.
tmk21315:
I had an original Crimson module. This didn't have the Pro-X setting but it still worked perfectly. Plug and play with some minor adjustment to triggers. I don't see any for sale even on Reverb.
Did Drum-Tec tell you directly that you can't get chick and splash with their controller? Seems odd they would be selling it knowing that it doesn't work, or at least not advertising that.
Did you change your module to the Pro-X setting while using the Drum-Tec controller?
Chaser:
--- Quote from: pejannl on February 16, 2021, 04:25:33 AM ---I have the Crimson II SE since a month or so. I like the set and it suits my (current) needs quite well. The only thing I don't like is the Hi-Hat pedal. I have to step really firmly to generate a 'closed' sound.
I tried to add the Hi-Hat controller set from Drum-tec but that controller only supports open/closed with the Crimson II SE module. No chick and no splash sounds.
I wonder whether the Pro-X Hi-hat is any better as the module has a special setting for the Pro-X. But... Where can I buy the Pro-X Hi-Hat? It seems to be out of production and I can not find any shops in Europe which still have one in stock. Is there anyone who knows of an Alesis Pro-X Hi-Hat for sale, be it new or used?
Thanks in advance.
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I presume you are using the Drum-Tec "Universal Hi Hat Controller" (Roland,Alesis..NOT Yamaha).
That controller looks just like the original GoeDrum Controller everyone was using when it first came out.
A lot of controllers "will work" but not "work well" and you don't get full function.
Roland modules which have a shorter/smaller range around 0-20kOhm , the Alesis modules need a much broader range around 0-80kOhm which is why Goedrum came out with a controller specifically for Alesis modules and Yamaha.
The Drum-Tec probably has the shorter range and was aimed at Roland modules.
These type controllers use a slide pot , which can be changed if you can find one of the appropriate size and range 100k.
One of the biggest mistakes I see Users make with using Hi Hat controllers for a stand is set them on felt on the stand...the felt absorbs everything so you won't be completely closed or get the sharp up/down required for a splash.Since the Goedrum isn't a pressure type it might not make any difference
Improve Hi Hat Controller
The Pro-X and the STRIKE Hi Hat use the same bottom/controller.(FSR)
The difference is the Pro-X top cymbal is/was single zone and loud acoustically.
The STRIKE Hi Hat top cymbal is dual zone.
Check the Crimson II SE and see if it will support a Dual Zone Hi Hat.The Crimson does.
The difference will be in the MIDI as the Crimson II module has the open/closed tied to a single MIDI note
Alesis Crimson DUAL ZONE Hi Hat
EDIT:
Fixed bad link
pejannl:
--- Quote from: tmk21315 on February 16, 2021, 07:44:24 AM ---I had an original Crimson module. This didn't have the Pro-X setting but it still worked perfectly. Plug and play with some minor adjustment to triggers. I don't see any for sale even on Reverb.
Did Drum-Tec tell you directly that you can't get chick and splash with their controller? Seems odd they would be selling it knowing that it doesn't work, or at least not advertising that.
Did you change your module to the Pro-X setting while using the Drum-Tec controller?
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Drum-Tec tested it with another module and confirmed their controller will work with other Alesis Kits (most notably Dm10) but not with the Crimson (II).
I did try the Pro-X setting on the module as well as the standard setting. Neither would do anything except open and closed hi-hat.
pejannl:
--- Quote from: Chaser on February 16, 2021, 10:22:45 AM ---I presume you are using the Drum-Tec "Universal Hi Hat Controller" (Roland,Alesis..NOT Yamaha).
That controller looks just like the original GoeDrum Controller everyone was using when it first came out.
A lot of controllers "will work" but not "work well" and you don't get full function.
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Amazon features a Goedrum module which would be Alesis compatible. It's not too expensive so I ordered one to give it a try. If it's doesn't work I'll just return it.
Meanwhile I would still prefer to get a Pro-X Hi-Hat rather than to experiment with alternative solutions (or even get into soldering!). I bought the kit to play drums and not for hardware fumbling so any ready-to-go solution would have my preference.
PS: The cymbal jack seems to be a stereo jack (forgot the technical abbreviation) so it seems the kit might support a dual zone hi-hat.
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