Author Topic: Hi-hat pedal - Worn Out? (Read 6210 times)

Ennuk3 · « **on:** February 11, 2012, 02:25:47 PM »

I seem to have a problem with my hi-hat pedal (DM10, RealHat): Foot chick is very inconsistent. I push the pedal down and I don't know whether a chick will come or not. I've already tried cleaning the pedal from inside, it worked great for a few minutes, after that the same deal.

This has been an escalating problem for about a month now. Can anybody help me with this, because I can't play without that chick.

Drumagination · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2012, 06:52:32 PM »

Hi Ennuk
I assume you tried recalibrating in the module.....(both ways)?

Sometimes cords go bad....have you tried a new one?

There is a resistor in the circuit board of your pedal (I think it's 360K ohms) that is easy to replace. You may have other issues, but I would replace that resistor before getting a new pedal.

Mark
Drumagination.com

Ennuk3 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2012, 08:58:12 PM »

You mean recalibrating the pedal? I did that several times, but to no prevail.

Tried a different cord, same thing, no change.

I did open up the pedal to clean for dust, there was a plastic strip, where rubber foot lands on and a circuit board attached to the casings side. Where is the resistor?

Drumagination · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2012, 05:40:31 AM »

Mine is soldered into the back of the circuit board. You may not have (or need) one.

Mark
Drumagination.com

Ennuk3 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2012, 07:06:22 AM »

What is interesting, is that it works great some time and after some time of playing it turns to sh*t and stops working properly. If I give it some rest, then it starts working again.

Drumagination · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2012, 11:25:52 AM »

Ennuk3
Sorry I've taken so long to write back. I just got home, and I'm slammed with my website.

Get yourself a digital volt meter.....I'll send you readings from my (working) pedal soon and we can troubleshoot this thing.

Mark
Drumagination.com

Met · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:20:21 PM »

@Ennuk3,

I get that same issue aswell, the foot chick doesn't register that accurately even after tweaking the Calibration of the hi hat and i notice that hitting the pedal hard and fast could not register it at times so I hit it as gentle as i can thus giving me the suspicion that the mechanism of the spring could be worn out after the long duration played on the pedal.

Ennuk3 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2012, 01:11:08 PM »

Meteor, I too have that same problem, if it starts having problems again, I can only press very gently to get that chick out of it.

Mark, what should I exactly measure?

Drumagination · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2012, 01:53:53 PM »

I'll show you exactly, hopefully in a day or two.

Mark
Drumagination.com

Met · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2012, 02:47:13 PM »

@Ennuk3,

If the Pedal turns out non responsive in the future, I sure do hope that by stretching the spring inside could help regain its full potential back the way it was.

Drumagination · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:18:42 PM »

Ennuk3
I put some sketches onto my website, and talked about your issue. There's probably nothing there that you don't already know, but I thought I would throw it in. I also shot my working pedal with the volt meter and took photos. I am not trained in electronics, but you may still be able to use some of my work to troubleshoot.

I put a PDF for you at the bottom of this page:

http://drumagination.com/hi-hat.html

I hope it helps.

Mark
Drumagination

Ennuk3 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2012, 02:01:01 PM »

Meteor, I actually have stretched it before, to give a more realistic feel.

Mark, great thanks! I will definitely measure it.

Met · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2012, 02:08:14 PM »

@Ennuk3,

Pedals like these really don't last IMO, Unless those of the mid end roland or yamaha model type Hi Hats.

einarabelc5 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:50:37 PM »

For the most technical experts out there. Is the pressure sensitive/ variable resistance part (can't remember its name) that's used in the pedal prone to wear damage and once it has worn out, is it prone to changes like friction or increase in temperature that might affect its behavior after some use?

Drumagination · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:21:08 AM »

Ennuk3
I also stumbled across this....

Yes.
Press EXT TRIG, jog the wheel to HIHAT, press F4 for CAL, press F3 for TRIM and experiment with values for Open and Closed - you'll probably find values that will give you a half-closed sound when the pedal actually is fully open.

Mark
Drumagination.com

Drumagination · « **Reply #15 on:** March 04, 2012, 04:27:21 AM »

Ennuk3
Did you ever get your pedal to work?

Mark
Drumagination.com

Ennuk3 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:07:33 AM »

It does work, it hasn't occured lately, but I'm sure that if I play enough in a day, the resistor gets warm enough and leaks too much current, as you said.

There are no real problems, except that you can't press the pedal too hard, it won't respond then.

hipabilly · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2012, 04:48:01 PM »

I've got an unresponsive RealHat, DOA from eBay. Too much of a hassle ot ship it back.

Using it with a Yamaha DD65. Took it apart, cleaned it, changed cords, still nothing. Everything on the circuit board looks solid. Any suggestions?

Also, anyone have a user manual for the RealHat? Can't find one online. Thanks.

Hellfire · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2012, 06:17:37 PM »

Quote from: hipabilly on April 12, 2012, 04:48:01 PM

I've got an unresponsive RealHat, DOA from eBay. Too much of a hassle ot ship it back.

Using it with a Yamaha DD65. Took it apart, cleaned it, changed cords, still nothing. Everything on the circuit board looks solid. Any suggestions?

Also, anyone have a user manual for the RealHat? Can't find one online. Thanks.

The issue is, the RealHat pedal is a variable type controller. The Yamaha DD65 uses a switch type controller. You need to look at the DMhat pedal not the RealHat pedal. I hope that helps.

hipabilly · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2012, 08:13:35 PM »

Thanks! Shows ya what I know.